Past Episodes:
Fariha Roísín on Choosing Not to Assimilate
“Why am I trying to be a part of a canon that literally does not even understand me?”
Melissa Febos on Untangling Girlhood
“That’s when I realized, “Oh this is the project of the book. I’m remaking my consciousness. This isn’t what I signed up for.” And of course it is— I’m the one holding the clipboard. But this is not what I thought it was going to be.”
Marie-Helene Bertino on Embracing Multiple Selves
“Injury doesn’t always show up the way you think it will. Family doesn’t manifest or show up the way you think it will— in my life, it hasn’t.”
Esmé Weijun Wang on Writing in An Unexpected Shape
“I think that writers could feel much less lonely in what is already a fairly lonely vocation, if there were more conversations about this.”
Lynn Steger Strong on Leaving the Art Monster
“Life is lived on the ground, and mostly it doesn’t make sense, and mostly it’s messy, and mostly it’s mundane. I want to hold something of life inside of the things that I make.”
Fernanda Melchor on Reconciling Violence
“I think it has helped to talk about these things. To— to make peace with it. To make amends with it.”
Lydia Millet on Risking Earnestness
“It’s not that I don’t ever write harshly now, or ever use humor. But I always want first to love something— in the world and in my work. I wish first to love something.”
Ross Gay on Staring Sadness in the Face
“I realized, Oh, I would do anything to get out of sadness. Whether it be turning to rage, or turning to paranoia, or anything else. Any kind of distraction.”
Suleika Jaouad on Breaking the Illness Narrative
“The beginning of my illness felt less like a single moment of bifurcation than a series of small fractures.”
Eileen Myles on Total Refusal
“My first thought was, NO. I thought, I don’t like this idea of “a threshold.” I realized it’s just like because on some level I feel like I’m a very resistant personality.”
Margo Jefferson on Another Kind of Haunting
“I thought “She’ll be SO ANGRY that she died!” Dare I borrow some of her mannerisms?”
Catherine Lacey on Rewriting Youth At the Mercy of Faith
“I don’t think books are stable objects, because I don’t think your brain is a stable object.”
Raven Leilani on Taking Apart the Body in Art
“We would always go to see the body, and my mother would say ‘Ugh, she doesn’t look like herself.’”
Looking Back at 2020
There was a lot of dancing to get through that time. I was thinking about this last night… Why do all this if you can’t go sing and dance with your friends?”
Natalie Diaz on Finding the Ecstatic
“Anxiety, I think, is ecstatic. Being pushed to the limit. There have been times when I know my body can’t go anymore— and yet it is?”
Wayétu Moore on Returning to Liberia
“There was no other place I could go for healing or the sort of answers I was looking for than my first home.”
Cathy Park Hong on Shattering the Single Story
“I didn’t want to speak in a way that was operatic, I wanted to have a conversation. I wanted to talk instead of sing.”
Mychal Denzel Smith on Believing in the Future
“I had no conception of what a life after 30 could look like because I’d never imagined it. I’d always existed with the fear that I would die before then. “
Laura Kolbe on “Composing Together” in the COVID Ward
“It felt like being on a space shuttle or being at sea. I’ve never been in a space in the hospital that felt so cordoned from the usual power currents in the hospital. It really felt like a space in which we were learning together on a new shore.”
Rachel Eliza Griffiths on Seeing the Body
“I can see her sometimes in the mirror and it's really stunning. Sometimes I'm grateful for it, but other time I also think, Well where am I at actually, and what part of this body is me anymore?”